In todays infoworld in cringely's column he has an interesting quote from the microsoft visual studio 6.0 2000 end user license: " Java technology is not fault tolerant and is not designed, manufactured, or intended for use or resale as online control equipment in hazardous environments requiring fail-safe performance such as in the operation of nuclear facilities, aircraft navigation, or communications systems, air-traffic control, direct life-support machines, or WEAPONS SYSTEMS" he goes on to note that java is the only language so noted,and asks if this means visual basic CAN be used to run a nuclear reactor ;-) might come in handy next time someone wants to use java where they should be using ada! jim At a recent computer software engineering course in the US, the participants were given an awkward question to answer. "If you had just boarded an airliner and discovered that your team of programmers had been responsible for the flight control software, how many of you would disembark immediately?" unknown author