At the SIGAda '98 conference Sy Wong presented a paper on Kernal Ada for hardware design. He has begun a working group whose home page, http://alpha.fdu.edu/~levine/wong/, I found in the working group section of the SIGAda website, http://acm.org/sigada/. John At 02:02 PM 11/8/1999 +1100, Geoff Bull wrote: >"F. Britt Snodgrass" wrote: >> >> There have been several articles this year in Electronic Engineering >> Times dealing with the emerging trend of using conventional software >> languages for "System on Chip" (SoC) design. > > >For more info see: >http://www.systemc.org >http://www.cynapps.com > >My personal opinion is that C/C++ (and Ada) are missing vital >pieces to be successfully used as a HDL (hardware description >language). > >Still, if you are going to take this route (using a non HDL >to design hardware) the fine control over representation >found in Ada would be a huge advantage. > > > >> One of the main arguments given is the >> availability of large numbers of C and Java developers >> who could quickly become SoC ASIC designers. > >This argument ignores the fact that there >is much less work in learning VHDL or Verilog than >in learning hardware design. >I believe the attraction is that C and Java are essentially free >while VHDL are Verilog simulation licenses are, in comparison, >hugely expensive. > >> Ada is never mentioned in these articles even >> though VHDL has some similarity to Ada. > >I was originally attracted to Ada because I had learnt >VHDL and realized how good that language is. >BTW the VHDL v's Verilog debate is not unlike the >Ada V's C debate. > >Cheers >Geoff ------------------------------------------------------- John W. McCormick [log in to unmask] Computer Science Department [log in to unmask] University of Northern Iowa voice (319) 273-2618 Cedar Falls, IA 50614-0507 fax (319) 273-7123 http://www.cs.uni.edu/~mccormic/