> I don't really have a quarrel with your program starting with > VB. As a curriculum planner, I'm all too aware that we debate, > endlessly, the right order in which to introduce languages, > concepts, tools, etc., without being able to prove our assertions. > It's all pretty much "religion", with little or no persuasive > empirical study (of the solid controlled variety) behind it. Well, it may not be the "solid controlled variety" but I find John McCormick's report on switching from C to Ada rather persuasive. > My quarrel was with your assertion that VB would raise your > retention rate. What is the goal, to lower the drop-out rate or to raise the quality of the graduates' skills? Often, these two goals are mutually exclusive.