Rick, You mentioned that you had some contact with Microsoft. Do you know any "Ada aware" people who work for Microsoft and might be in a position to consider including Ada as one of the languages in Visual Studio? This is probably a silly, hypothetical question but I think Microsoft has finally been forced to notice that they have a poor reputation with regard to software reliability. If someone of influence within Microsoft could be convinced that using Ada would help them produce less defective software then maybe some of Microsoft's own money would be spent promoting Ada. They would surely get some good press in the Wall Street Journal if they announced they were developing the next version of Windows using the same "safety-critical" language as the Boeing 777 commercial aircraft. OK, back to reality now... F. Britt Snodgrass