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Rick,

I think you mistakes MS marketing hype with the real world. Have you seen
the latest figures from market research in EmbSys? How big a share has MS
tools & tech? I do not think there is a need to "panic" for Ada or other SW
Engineering focused folks. Are ..anyone doing something about it..? Yep, you
might even be surprised; but we do not run around and brag about it -
actually my company's policy is not to reveal anything externally of what we
are doing or how.  I believe that other companies have the same policy.

/soren
Soeren Henssel-Rasmussen
Nokia Mobile Phones

 -- Hi, Everyone,
 --
 -- To kind of see where I have been going with this discussion on standards
 -- and Microsoft technologies, consider this:
 --
 --  1. We all know Ada is very sick in terms of people adopting it.  It
seems   to
 --     have found its niche in the embedded world (like our airplanes) and
not
 --     much else.
 --  2. Microsoft is entering the embedded world big-time with its embedded
visual
 --     tools.  Devices like Auto PCs (for automobiles), Pocket PCs
(including
 --     ruggedized versions with bar scanners), and the like are emerging,
and
 --     these are being programmed in Visual Basic and Visual C++.  These
are  places
 --     where Ada could be making inroads.
 --
 -- Is anyone doing something about this situation?  Are there any Ada
compilers  for
 -- the Windows CE platform?  Are there any plans for such compilers?
 --
 -- I'm personnally finding Microsoft technologies to meet more and more of
my  needs.
 -- This is translating into less and less of a need to continue with Ada.
The  material
 -- I've offered this group (the Tech Ed 2000 trip report and Windows 2000
Launch report)
 -- shows just some of the directions in which Microsoft is moving, and some
of  these
 -- directions are areas where Ada used to be a prime candidate.
 --
 -- Rick
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 -- Richard Conn, Principal Investigator
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